tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22657443.post1247418336084648269..comments2023-12-31T03:18:37.403-06:00Comments on "E pur si muove!": The Ground Zero MosqueLester Hunthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14746157071827337723noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22657443.post-16354083643039945472010-08-15T18:10:13.473-05:002010-08-15T18:10:13.473-05:00Islam WILL DOMINATE!!!Islam <a href="http://seanrobsville.blogspot.com/2009/12/what-buddhists-and-pagans-need-to-know.html" rel="nofollow"><b>WILL DOMINATE!!!</b></a>seanrobsvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01135048988031819619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22657443.post-61919347948248421122010-08-15T16:48:02.995-05:002010-08-15T16:48:02.995-05:00It's a case where he should have commented the...It's a case where he should have commented they way he did. All he should have said is that he understands peoples feelings about it, but we a nation ruled by laws. Therefore he wouldn't have been construed having supported it. I disagree about a mosque, church, or any other religious group setting up shop, as motives behind organized religion are quite clear. I don't know what type of "healing" any religion can provide. I, however, do think it is great it can be done and is legally permissible in the US. It make me feel good to be in the US! Can you imagine Iran allowing a catholic church to purchase (if they even allow for private property) land a mosque once stood?Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136354449960613823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22657443.post-80978362241012723582010-08-15T16:15:12.057-05:002010-08-15T16:15:12.057-05:00Personally, I think this would be very good place ...Personally, I think this would be very good place for a mosque, if its builders really do intend it in the spirit of healing, etc. The trouble with this project for me is that not enough is known (at least, by me) about who is behind it and what their motives are. The rumors that foreign states are among the sponsors is very troubling. Some of the states that might be involved are very hostile to the American people. (Also to the American state, but I don't mind that.)<br /><br />That said, I think the Scocca piece, unless I misunderstand it, is one of the worst-reasoned pieces of expository prose I have ever read in my life.<br /><br />For one thing, it is offensively insulting to the opponents of the mosque, claiming they are opposed to "the right of Muslims to pray" in NYC. This is exactly the sort of fallacy I was attacking in my post. I don't agree with Palin or Krauthammer either, but this is just plain nasty.<br /><br />Also, Scocca seems to think that two cases are only analogous if they are identical. NY is a city, Auschwitz was a death camp, Gettysburg has farms. So the heck what? <br /><br />The way you attack an argument by analogy is to show that the cases are <i>relevantly</i> different. <i>Of course</i> they are different! -- if they were identical they would not be analogous.<br /><br />Actually, his essay would be a good one for an assignment in a class in informal logic. "What is this author doing right/wrong?"Lester Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14746157071827337723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22657443.post-41598159450360879902010-08-15T13:36:00.575-05:002010-08-15T13:36:00.575-05:00While not entirely apt, your mention of Auschwitz ...While not entirely apt, your mention of Auschwitz brought to mind this post by Tom Scocca.<br />http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/scocca/archive/2010/08/14/new-york-city-is-not-a-nazi-death-camp.aspx<br />As Scocca points out, it is not like the options were mosque or memorial grounds. The space isn't going to be left open for people to reflect on the events of 9-11. Why makes a Starbucs or Hardees a better option than a mosque?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com